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Posted - 2008.03.09 13:09:00 -
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 Originally by: General Coochie
Due to PvP being as it is in EvE, fights usually happen at close range or extreme long range. Dampeners aren't suited to handle any of them.
Welcome to the crap world of TDs.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: General Coochie
Why fly an arazu, curse, lachesis or pilgrim when you can fly a falcon, rook, huginn and rapier? There is NO reason.
Fixed. Huginns and Falcons together do EVERYTHING. There is no need for gallente or amarr recons really. There are SMALL uses and thats neuting a tank (no real use, youll gank it anyway at some point but it help a little) or having long range disruption. Yay.
Both amarr and gallente recons need a boost to get inline with minmatar and caldari ones.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Azekial
Edited by: Azekial on 09/03/2008 22:13:33
Don't forget about the Sensor Dampening Strength rig, that got nerfed after the patch as well. The rig went from 10% boost to strength and 10% penalty >>to>> 5% bonus to strength and 10% penalty.
This really annoyed me as I had fitted them on my Arazu and Lachesis before the nerf was mentioned, now I have two ships with 4 rigs that cost 10-15m and they have been made almost useless.
And on the note of warpins for Caldari Recons/BB - one Cov op get's a point on the enemy gang - interceptor/t1 frig warps to within 100km of the cov op, caldari recon/BB warps to within 100km of the interceptor/t1 frig.  Instant 200km spot and only risking an interceptor/t1 frig
Id like you to try to get warp ins on every day gate campers that camp a familiar gate. The falcon will have dussins of 100-150km bookmarks around the gate. Id like to see you counter that. As soon as something gets close, it just warps to another spot and continues jamming. THERE IS NO COUNTER AGAINST ECM. CCP needs to give us something that can effectively fight these. Its just so boring when you HAVE TO have your own falcon to avoid all that trouble.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Azekial
I think you missed my point, I was on about the Caldari Recons getting a spot 200km off a gang/fleet to jam them. I was saying it's pretty easy and you don't have to risk much at all.
Yep, we agree then 
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Posted - 2008.03.10 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 10/03/2008 22:43:47
Originally by: X99 Z990
ECM drones + scan resolution damps.
Takes out one large ship, at most, from the battle and does it from mid range. Even the blackbird does a hell of a lot better at electronic warfare than that.
QFT. Its no friggin secret that gallente and amarr recons need help in the ew departments when you compare the utility and ownage of both minmatar and caldari recons. Between the two (caldari and minmatar recons) they can pretty much fill ANY role needed in a gang. Gallente and amarr recons are not needed. They are just there for people that cant fly anything else. And no, they are not great solo platforms, hacs outshine them by huge amounts. Curse isnt half good either, sacri is WAY better for solo work.
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Posted - 2008.03.10 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: ThatCpp
The introduction of scripts reduced the effectiveness of so many modules. I was under the impression that once they introduced scripts, they would make those mods which were affected stronger in a specific area with a script inside than before. However it wasn't the case, everything just got halfed.
Yep and ECM, WEBs and TPs didnt have scripts so they stayed exactly the same. So either ccp thought amarr and gallente recons were OP before this change (so they deserved the nerf with scripts) or they know (or maybe ignore for some stupid reason) that by this change both amarr and gallente recons got nerfed below the caldari and minmatar ones.
Either way ccp has failed because they a have ignored this problem wichever way you look at it.
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